Kitty Wireless homepage rumor?

[southcarolinaboy]

I see on the homepage that it says an important Page Plus announcement is coming very soon. I hope it's Unlimited Web!!!

[imaplowboy]

I'm not getting my hopes up but on the old forum hidden in the mix of messages, she did mention about having/smelling a few blackberrys that were starting to ripen. I believe that this statement was cleverly concealed in the midst of a reply.

My brain's OS hasn't booted up all the way yet :D, I couldn't locate the message.

[tmason68]

Here you go:

http://www.kittyforums.com/index.php/topic,556.0.html

[Kitty]

<grin>

[groze]

I thought pageplus would be moving to AT&T and/or Sprint like other mvno's have done. It just BB will be allowed back on.

[southcarolinaboy]

I hope that's true about BB's! I would LOVE to be able to use a Pearl Flip with my Page Plus!!

[Zorb]

yawn.......

:D

[Kitty]

Ok, y'all wanna know what it is? well, ok... oh crap power flickering gotta logoff!!! :-P

[southcarolinaboy]

I &hearts; Blackberry

[groze]

That is very strange Kitty in Indiana, I would say around 10:45 p.m. EDT my lights flickered as well. Your in Maine and I am in Indiana.

[carpediemnow]

It probably is Blackberries. But if it is , will PPC intro its own Berries?
And will it be an addon to an existing plan or another one in its own right?
Perhaps more data (but probably not unlimited) options?

Whatever it is, I can't wait!

[imaplowboy]

Ok, y'all wanna know what it is? well, ok... oh crap power flickering gotta logoff!!! :-P

What? You guys don't have a U.P.S. yet? No, I'm NOT talking about the package delivery company.

Just kidding, guys :D

Jeffrey

[southcarolinaboy]

Blackberry, Blackberry, Blackberry!!!!

[egl]

If Blackberries are allowed is there any chance that "push" email could be used successfully?

[southcarolinaboy]

Ok. So i was talking today to a guy who's a Master Agent for Page Plus. He sells phones to page plus dealers. Anyway, he was saying that as he goes from store to store, he hears that people are using their Blackberry's on PP. And that PP has started charging BB users an extra $10 for unlimited WEB.

[Kitty]

Ok. So i was talking today to a guy who's a Master Agent for Page Plus. He sells phones to page plus dealers. Anyway, he was saying that as he goes from store to store, he hears that people are using their Blackberry's on PP. And that PP has started charging BB users an extra $10 for unlimited WEB.

Not true. But... WHEN blackberries are allowed back on the network, I suspect they will be allowed on with full BIS support - including push email.

Kitty

[southcarolinaboy]

When he was saying that was just for BB's that were grandfathered in from back when they were allowed.

[carpediemnow]

If Berries are allowed and unlike VM and Boost mobile, have full Bis AND Bes, you will have a nice following among business users (careful on the utnt there...). All those now worthless Verizon Blackberries will be able to function again. Especially the cool ones like the Storm, Curve and Bold series.

[imaplowboy]

If Berries are allowed and unlike VM and Boost mobile, have full Bis AND Bes, you will have a nice following among business users (careful on the utnt there...). All those now worthless Verizon Blackberries will be able to function again. Especially the cool ones like the Storm, Curve and Bold series.


I don't know about that, unless they decide to add a business plan, but according to the posted UT&T policy, any business use is considered abuse by Page Plus, the TOS states that phones are for personal use only.

[groze]

carpediemnow

If I am not mistaking. Pageplus utnt plan is not for businesses but for consumers. I think businesses can still use pay as you go & t&t plan if they so choose. In the old UTNT agreement businesses were allowed to use it, but in the new UTNT commercial use is prohibited.

[carpediemnow]

From the Page Plus Unlimited abuse policy: "A proprietary program of complex algorithms is used to identify the behavior patterns of customers who are abusing the unlimited plan. Those who have been determined to be abusing the system are then moved to the standard pay-as-you-go plan."

Maybe they'll be using that proprietary program of complex algorithms on the Blackberry plan? Lmao

[groze]

From the Page Plus Unlimited abuse policy: "A proprietary program of complex algorithms is used to identify the behavior patterns of customers who are abusing the unlimited plan. Those who have been determined to be abusing the system are then moved to the standard pay-as-you-go plan."

Maybe they'll be using that proprietary program of complex algorithms on the Blackberry plan? Lmao

If that was challenged in court, that would of been thrown out by a judge for being unclear.

[southcarolinaboy]

Well, what is it? lol.

[chuckt]

Any word on the pending announcement? Would like to know the details and planned implementation dates. Thanks chuckt

[Kitty]

Any word on the pending announcement? Would like to know the details and planned implementation dates. Thanks chuckt

You, and everyone else :) We cannot say yet. August should be an exciting month!

Kitty

[chuckt]

I feel like a small child anticipating Christmas Morning ( Probably acting like it as well). Can you at least tell us if it involves Blackberries? thank you.

[Micallen]

I think that's been established (off the record) - that there may be some sort of berry involved.

[Zorb]

I think that's been established (off the record) - that there may be some sort of berry involved.

........so far all we get are raspberries...........

http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/rasberries.html


:D

[southcarolinaboy]

I wish I knew if BB's were coming. I am switching this week from PP to T-Mobile Flexpay just so I can get a BB :( I need email.

[tmason68]

Southcarolinaboy...there are many, many, MANY non-Blackberry solutions to "I want to get my e-mail" without switching off from PagePlus.

[southcarolinaboy]

Yeah, but I am hoping that if PP allows BB's they would add an unlimited BB plan. I would need unlimited Data or Unlimited BB to get push email. I had a Q9 but had to keep manually checking my email. I need something that delivers email instantly throughout the day.

[Micallen]

Heck, my Samsung SCH-i760 can do that. You can set the intervals - or check it manually. And you can have more than 1 e-mail acct if you wish (I have 3 set up on it). (PS, I may sell it :) )

[southcarolinaboy]

Yeah, but does it delivery push email? And if so, wouldn't that eat up your 20mb in a few days?

[Micallen]

No, but you can set the interval between checks. I don't really understand the difference I guess. I have TNT1200, and I never come close to using up my 50MB. You can set the e-mail to truncate the e-mail at 50K or whatever you want. That way, you don't eat up your data on junk e-mail with pix attached. When you do get an e-mail that's over the set size that you do want to see all of it, you "click for more." That's how you save data using email.

[tmason68]

I do headers only and no images. That way I can pick and choose what to read on my phone and what to ignore or wait until I am at a computer. Like Micallen said, you just schedule how often to check. If you set your important e-mail account to check every 5 minutes, its about the same as push e-mail, except I would imagine push would use more data as it probably pushes the whole message to the phone.

I have the same plan as Micallen and I have to really try to use up my data (of course I also have WIFI on my phone).

[southcarolinaboy]

Blackberry, Blackberry, Blackberry :p

[tmason68]

Ahhhh, now the truth comes out.

[southcarolinaboy]

No phone can beat a BB when it comes to email power. BB's kick Windows Mobile butt. :-D

[tmason68]

Hahaha...right....to heck with logic and reason. Blackberry's rule!!!!

[Micallen]

I had a BB 8130 Pearl on Page Plus and it got on my nerves. Of course at the time, I was on PAYG, and was worried about the damn thing connecting all the time. Off, or on, it didn't matter. I even tried harsh language. I sold it and got a WINDOWS MOBILE PHONE !!!!!

[southcarolinaboy]

My dream phone for Page Plus is a Blackberry Pearl flip. Or a white Blackberry 8520

[Micallen]

When I was looking for a BB, I looked for a Pearl Flip, but they were few and far between.

[southcarolinaboy]

For some reason, the flip never really took off. People didn't respond well to it. I love the pearl and having it in a flip is perfect for me. I looked on Ebay. You can get one pretty cheap on there.

[Cardiac]

I wonder if I should buy up about 50 of the 8130 Pearls.......Hmmmm. They are CHEAP on eBay right now. About $30-40 each.......

Bob

[southcarolinaboy]

I would buy them now. If PP lifts the ban, the price on Verizon BB's will go up!

[Kitty]

I would not buy them up right now.

[Micallen]

Uh Ohhhhh.

[southcarolinaboy]

My heart just sank :(

[Kitty]

*I* would not buy them up right now.... just because *I* wouldn't invest that much in a product that we don't have a DEFINITE on. Now, the MOMENT you get an email from us about berries.... THEN I would probably buy some up :)

[Kitty]

I did not say it was not BB's. You're reading too much into this :) We are sworn to secrecy until things break open.

[groze]

I did not say it was not BB's. You're reading too much into this :) We are sworn to secrecy until things break open.

Kitty
I deleted that post. I didn't see your 05:19 PM EDT post, tell after I posted. We were posting near the same time.

[tmason68]

This thread is funny. I love the twists and turns.

[southcarolinaboy]

I feel like Robert Langdon in the Da Vinci Code and my Holy Grail is a PP BB!!!!

[tmason68]

can i be tom hanks?

[southcarolinaboy]

If I can have a Blackberry Storm. lol. :rolleyes:

[Micallen]

SCboy... what part of SC are you from?

[Kitty]

How does $60/mo with about 250mb of blackberry data sound to y'all? Real BIS service? Just hypothetically speaking?

[tmason68]

I'd still stick with my 1200/1200/50 for $30, but I bet a lot of BB folks would go nuts for it.

[southcarolinaboy]

That sounds like a great plan! Especially considering you get the largest network out there! That blows Boost's BB out the water. Their coverage is lacking.

[dollymadison]

It sounds like a great plan, but if I have the option I am still going to stick w/my UTNT until we get the Ooma, then hopefully I will be able to downgrade to TNT1200.

[carpediemnow]

Hey, if they give me byod, I'm ALL for it. I've read on Hofo that Blackberries sip data compared to other smartphones anyway (Something like 50+ megs a month vs half a gig or so for iphones/Androids on average use).

250 megs on a Verizon mvno plan would be unbelievable. If they'd extend that kind of generous data offerings to their other monthly plans.

And if Verizon would start extending that to their mvnos in general. I've seen some mvnos charge $80 a gig. C'mon...

[southcarolinaboy]

A friend of mine is selling a cheap Verizon Tour. I would buy it now but still not sure. lol.

[pdxgirl]

6,539 views of this post. WOW!

[groze]

6,539 views of this post. WOW!

Some could be duplicates, like when you view the post and you are not logged in.

[southcarolinaboy]

Any news yet on this? :confused:

[Kitty]

Any news yet on this? :confused:

It's not time yet. It's close though!

Kitty

[southcarolinaboy]

The suspense is killing me. lol. I was in Radio Shack yesterday getting to ready to buy a Boost Mobile Blackberry (they are on sale for $149) but I put it back. I can't get past their terrible coverage :(

[Micallen]

The suspense is killing me. lol. I was in Radio Shack yesterday getting to ready to buy a Boost Mobile Blackberry (they are on sale for $149) but I put it back. I can't get past their terrible coverage :(

Yeah, the device means nothing if you can't use it.

[southcarolinaboy]

True. Boost is such a tease. lol. They offer a cheap Blackberry with cheap service and BAD coverage.

[pdxgirl]

And now Cricket has come out with the Blackberry Curve 8530 unlimited with no taxes or fees....so somethings gota give....

[Kitty]

And now Cricket has come out with the Blackberry Curve 8530 unlimited with no taxes or fees....so somethings gota give....

I believe a month or two ago I hinted at how August was going to be an interesting month :-) Page Plus won't be far behind.

Kitty

[southcarolinaboy]

I have some money I am saving for when the big announcement comes out :-) :cool:

[carpediemnow]

Well August is one third over. When is the wait going to be.?

[southcarolinaboy]

I have some items I am watching on Ebay :-) :eek:

[Kitty]

I got some news from PPC today that their original date of the 2nd week in August has been pushed out until the END of September. So back to the wait we go....

[Micallen]

SCboy goes on suicide watch :(

[southcarolinaboy]

That's terrible news :( What will I do now? Oh the humanity!!! :mad:

[tmason68]

SCB, you should look into some of the fine windows mobile devices that some KF members are selling. If you can get your hands on an i770, just tell all your BB buddies its a new color Curve.

[southcarolinaboy]

Eh, I am kinda over WM phones. lol. I am thinking, if I stay with PP, I will try and get an Android phone. Any recs for one that isn't TOO expensive? ;)

[chuckt]

Once again a big letdown. Feel like PP strings us along because they know so many are waiting for BB's to be allowed. My bet is Sept will become Dec.

[Zorb]

Once again a big letdown. Feel like PP strings us along because they know so many are waiting for BB's to be allowed. My bet is Sept will become Dec.

which year ? 2010 or 2011 ???

:D

[carpediemnow]

There are lots of Vz mvnos that allow Berries for now. Just use a Berry on there till PPC gets theirs IF they ever get it. Vz Prepaid was supposed to get Blackberry prepaid plans back in April but that turned out to be unfounded speculation despite the usually reliable source (BGR , Boy Genius Reports). If Big Red is late with it, expect a mvno like PPC to definitely be on country time. Usually late.

There are tons of cool Winmo and Android devices to play with. Vz is gunning for the iphone so hard, it's not even funny and their iphone killer number one is their horde of Android Smartphones like the Droid, Droid X, Incredible, upcoming Droid 2 and beyond.

No berries? Life's not over yet. And Android or Winmo on PPC is FREE. However, I'd love to have seen a plan with 250megs of data on a Vz mvno. Sprint mvnos have unlimited but VZ is so scroogey with their data that a quarter meg feels like an avalanche. It helps that Berries sip data vs Droids and Winmo. That's one area where Berries excel.

[southcarolinaboy]

Which Verizon MVNO's allow BB's?

[groze]

southcarolinaboy

Mingo & Airvoice cdma allowed bb but you couldn't access the BIS except on mingo and you need your own wap service for Mingo. That has changed both are going to sprint. (Not 100% sure on Airvoice)

I think he is referring to Blackdog wireless a postpaid mvno. I don't know if he is taking new customer.

[shengchieh]

"old Verizon" Mingo is moving to MyWaWireless.

http://www.mywaywireless.com/

[As mentioned earlier, Mingo is moving to Sprint.]

Sheng-Chieh

[Micallen]

Yeah, but does it delivery push email? And if so, wouldn't that eat up your 20mb in a few days?

The Samsung Omnia supports push e-mail. I assume there are several Windows Mobile phones that do.

[imaplowboy]

You need to be careful with push email or email checking normally on smart phones, on my WM, it takes 250kb just to check if I have any mail, then it adds to it the mail headers it downloads.

Now, if I had no email, and checked my email every 10 minutes, 250kb(6)=1,500MB

And some people wonder how they run out of data so quick :-)

The above was an estimate as we don't know what scale Page Plus or Verizon uses (or would they be the same scale?) I'm talking about the 1000kb and 1024kb scale.

I usually keep my data disabled and get all my stuff when I hit a hot spot. :-)

JB

[tmason68]

I check email a few times a day, and actually download and read some of it, and I don't use that much.

[dollymadison]

I do also; and I use hardly any data. But I have WM 6.5. Would that make a difference?
I check email a few times a day, and actually download and read some of it, and I don't use that much.

[tmason68]

I don't think so.

[jclendineng]

FYI you just use WiFi. Simple. PPC doesnt have enough data to use ANY data outside of a WiFi network other than what the phone leaks. I found this out first hand. I would go as far as having them turn it off. If they didnt take MMS out of your data usage, I would.

[carpediemnow]

That's what I hated about their so called new "unlimited" mms. How can it be "unlimited" when you're given a finite amount of transport data? It should be "potentially unlimited mms". lol

[jclendineng]

That's what I hated about their so called new "unlimited" mms. How can it be "unlimited" when you're given a finite amount of transport data? It should be "potentially unlimited mms". lol

Exactly right. As much as I like PPC, they do ALOT is mis-advertising. Booting people off for actually using the unlimited, and "unlimited MMS", which as you said is limited to the data. Its crazy, but I think they are only trying to find a niche in a growing market. This will even out soon, or else PPC will be no more. They have to shape up in this ever-competing market.

[imaplowboy]

I check email a few times a day, and actually download and read some of it, and I don't use that much.

I was talking about checking email every 10 minutes continuously, I check mine
via the phone's account manager (I have 5 POP accounts configured on my phone).

I was just saying that if a person configured their WM phone to connect and check email every 10 minutes, their 20 or 50MB of data would go quick, depending upon how they configured their account on their phone (limited days (like last three days of messages only), headers only or full messages, etc.)

Manual checking only a few times a day won't use much, I actually use nodata so I get an "Unable to obtain IP address" error every now and then.

As for checking my email, it either downloads automatically when I am
on Active-Synch or hit a hot-spot.

Although, I am not sure how push email would work (Using MES).

JB

[dollymadison]

When I set my email to download every ten minutes I used up my 20mb in about three days. I was so mad! Now I check it about three times a day and that works fine for me.

[imaplowboy]

At least the program nodata ONLY controls the data connection to the cellular network and doesn't turn off all forms of data.

For example, I have nodata disable my phone's data line connections, but it has no effect whatsoever when I hook it to my computer (the phone then automagically uses my computer's internet connection), the same happens if I connect to a Wi-Fi hotspot, and I am usually always near a free wi-fi spot, so the phone will do what it needs to do when it finds a working connection since it can no longer connect on its own unless I tell nodata to enable line data (which I rarely do).

Jeff

[southcarolinaboy]

I did it. I left PPC. :( lol. I am the proud owner of a new Blackberry 8520 from T-Mobile :-)

[Micallen]

I did it. I left PPC. :( lol. I am the proud owner of a new Blackberry 8520 from T-Mobile :-)

Dude... BlackBerries are allowed back on PPC Aug. 30th. You should have waited. :(



just kidding

[southcarolinaboy]

That's a cruel joke Micallen! LOL! :)

[Micallen]

I saw a Pearl Flip for sale locally on Craigslist today. That's what I was looking for when I first joined PPC last year. Ended up with a Pearl back then.

I had to slap my hand and move on.

[southcarolinaboy]

I wanted a Pearl Flip, but stores don't carry those anymore. So I got the new Curver 8520. I love it so far!

[DROID]

I wanted a Pearl Flip, but stores don't carry those anymore. So I got the new Curver 8520. I love it so far!
the "suretouch" keyboard doesnt bother you?

[southcarolinaboy]

I liked the Suretype when I used to have a Pearl. It's pretty easy once you get the hang of it.

[dollymadison]

Gosh I hope so. I had a pink Curve 8330, that I LOST, and I also have a pink Pearl. I can't figure out the Pearl's typing to save my life. I'm hoping that I will eventually be able to type on it without taking forever.

[DROID]

Oh boy.

According to Android Does (http://www.androiddoes.net/page/index.html/_/articles/exclusive-get-your-android-on-contract-free-r399http://www.androiddoes.net/page/index.html/_/articles/exclusive-get-your-android-on-contract-free-r399) Prepaid smartphones are coming to verizon

the catch?
$30 MANDATORY data plan for smartphones. $10 for feature phones ON TOP of a $45 minimum voice plan

http://www.androiddoes.net/bdube/prepaid2.png

(brain overload reset imminent)

[groze]

Driod

What would Verizon consider a in between phone? The Samsung u340 can receive MMS and it could browser the internet with openwave.

[imaplowboy]

Well, if this is true, this may have been what PP was waiting for (Verizon prepaid to allow blackberries), :-) however, on Verizon's announcement, I didn't see anything about support for BIS/BES, or I could of missed it.

What does concern me is that Windows Mobile phones will not be allowed, will this mean that all Windows Mobile Phones will now be added to the ban list, preventing activation on Page Plus?

Of course, V didn't say they never would be allowed, they just stated upon launch that they wouldn't be allowed.

Then I don't automatically believe everything I read online either, however official the "materials" look.

If they do actually implement these plans, their MVNO's shouldn't be to far
behind them. :-)

Jeff

[jclendineng]

I hope!!! I want more data!!! Preferably unlimited.

[SouthernGeorge]

amen!

[carpediemnow]

The Verizon prepaid plans are the only Verizon based mvno/prepaid plans that offer unlimited data and byod. Straight Talk has unlimited data, no byod. Most other Verizon mvnos like Page Plus and Lucky have byod but no unlimited data.

[jclendineng]

Actually you can byod on Revol, which offers insanely low prices (45 bucks for unlimited everything, data no cap), and they are nationwide. Not as wide as verizon, but they have pretty nifty coverage. Also, free roaming, so it is truly nationwide. I actually called them and talked to them about activation, and they do NOT filter esn's, or devices, only require a correct prl, and a "revol flash" which anyone with the right tools can do on their own.


Edit: The coverage for talk/text is great, where upon further inspection, data is lacking a bit. But about like looking at att coverage map haha ;)

[jclendineng]

The new plan is going to be something like this: Byod/Blackberries, unlimited talk/text/mms AND 250 megs of data (a blackberry plan). Im going to say probably around 60 bucks a month. Hopefully coming in a few weeks :)

[pcguru]

The new plan is going to be something like this: Byod/Blackberries, unlimited talk/text/mms AND 250 megs of data (a blackberry plan). Im going to say probably around 60 bucks a month. Hopefully coming in a few weeks :)

I'd like to hope they will match Cricket and offer b.y.o.d. and unlimited everything (voice,text, data) for $60/month.

What I can't understand is that Cricket offer Android users unlimited everything, including data, for just $55/month. Perhaps they think that people buy Droids just for show and don't use the data feature as much as Blackberry users would?

[carpediemnow]

I guess we'll see. 250megs ain't unlimited but it's a quantum leap over Att's 100 megs /$20, Tmobile Prepaid's dollar an hour unlimited, Verizon mvnos $40 and up for that amount, and PPC's own measly 20 to 50 megs.

[jclendineng]

Let me say that I do not know for sure. This is just what I have heard. And Also let me point out that Cricket runs their own towers. Verizon will not give any mvno unlimited data. I am almost for sure. If they did, I would be so happy you would not believe, but thats just not like Verizon. I agree pcguru, and thats what I have always said, that Verizon needs to match their competition (Cricket, Virgin Mobile, Revol), but with unlimited everything on Verizon's "prepaid plan" around 120-130 dollars a month, I do not see them giving mvno's any kind of good data packages. If I am wrong, I will be glad I was, but at the moment, Verizon is not that "nice".

Edit: PPC will no doubt allow berries back on their plans, but beyond that is all rumor. Since I personally have a droid, which made me see how useless a berry is, (sorry if you own one), I want plans that will benefit android users. Like unlimited data.

[jclendineng]

What I stated is still a possibility. It will happen, Im just not sure when.

[southcarolinaboy]

Now with Verizon offering a Prepaid Blackberry plan, will PPC honestly get one now?

[tmason68]

Yes. Now buy my junky old 8703e already. :-)

[southcarolinaboy]

lol. I got rid of my T-Mobile Blackberry. The coverage wasn't good. I didn't get signal in my house or at my job so I am back to Page Plus. Still holding out hope for a Blackberry but I think I might try the HTC Ozone first.

[tmason68]

Wait...what happened to "blackberry...blackberry....blackberry!!!" Wasn't that you? :-)

[southcarolinaboy]

LOL! I remember you saying awhile back that Windows phones have push email too and they have good calendars and other things I need, so I'd be willing to settle for a newer Windows Mobile phone like the Ozone or Omnia 2 or Imagio.

[tmason68]

Very true. Enjoy whatever you end up with!

[jclendineng]

Any more word on PagePlus data? Kitty said we should expect something this winter, so has anyone heard anything about Berries, or data packs?

[carpediemnow]

Page Plus is making changes. For the better, just not in the areas we have been wanting (more data/Blackberries, etc). They finally allow stacking on the Talk/text plans. And their CS is reportedly getting much better.

Good. Now they can get to work on the other stuff...

$60 Unlimited talk/text/mms and 250 megs data for Blackberry/smartphones on Page Plus? I'd buy that.

[jclendineng]

I would rather have a bit more data...but I could live with it :)

[tmason68]

$60 Unlimited talk/text/mms and 250 megs data for Blackberry/smartphones on Page Plus? I'd buy that.

As long as they let me keep my $30 1200/1200/50mb plan on a smartphone.

[frankc420]

Had to call PP yesterday so that I could port out my cell number to my employer, phone rang twice and someone picked up. Was shocked! Granted, the guy didn't speak with much conviction but he actually answered the phone without a 10+ minute hold time.

[jclendineng]

Its coming! I do not know when, but that blackberry plan is on its way!! Hoping for more data than expected though...but this is coming from some pageplus people so something is on its way!! Virgin mobile usa just added an android phone, and they have the curve 2 with unlimited data and texts for 25 bucks...verizon has to jump in sometime...one can always dream :)

[8668]

Page Plus "data plan" and "blackberry plan" rumors have been around as long as I can remember. Closest thing to a perpetual motion machine I have ever saw

[jclendineng]

Hey bro don't disparage what I said :) I know and your'e right, but I can always hope. I need unlimited data for streaming stuff in my car to work and stuff. So I am always hoping. But your'e probably right.

[wayne]

read an article in albany ny craigslist.that a pp dealer guarantees activation on any bb phone through pp ..but dont know what plans would fall in bb catagory..

[tmason68]

I would be very leery of how that "dealer" goes about accomplishing that.

[dollymadison]

A Blackberry device is a banned device on PP. Period. When someone advertises the ability to do something that is in direct contrast to what a business's stated policy is, you have to wonder how they are doing it and if their actions are ethically sound.

[wayne]

i live about 100 miles from there..and not about to make that drive ..regardless if ethical or not i just wanted to share this info to anyone who was interested..just posting what i read,thought maybe there were some changes u guys werent aware of;

[wayne]

tried to copy and paste add wont let me for the non believers..called number they say its legal''what do i know hmmm

[carpediemnow]

They're cloning/rewriting esns, plain and simple. Illegal stuff. Stay away from it. Bad news.

Any cdma phone can be byoded (illegally) to ANY cdma network if you do this. Sprint mvnos, Tracfone, Straight Talk, Virgin Mobile, all the companies that don't allow byod will get it (against their policy and will) if one does the above.

Again, it's illegal. The only Blackberries that get through legally have been due to plain dumb luck.

[dollymadison]

Wayne, I didn't mean to sound harsh if I did; I just wanted to make it clear Blackberries are still banned from PPC.

Thank you for trying to help. I don't blame you for not driving 100mi; that's a long way! :D

[groze]

carpediemnow
I do agree with you mostly, however the are or were verizon post paid mvnos that do allow Blackberries but not PP.

[Kitty]

carpediemnow
I do agree with you mostly, however the are or were verizon post paid mvnos that do allow Blackberries but not PP.

Page Plus is a privately owned company. There is nothing anywhere that says they MUST allow Blackberries. In order to allow blackberries they must have the proper licensing in place from RIM. It is purely a business decision whether the cost of the licensing is worth it compared to what they can sell the Blackberry service for.

Remember, Page Plus has the BEST rates for any MVNO out there, with the best coverage of any network in the USA. Period. Hands down. You can use a Windows Mobile based smartphone, which is VERY much like a Blackberry. Page Plus does not HAVE to allow blackberries - ever - if it's not the right business decision for them.

Kitty

[tmason68]

Blackberrys are soooo overrated. There...I said it.

Carry on.

[Kitty]

Blackberrys are soooo overrated. There...I said it.

Carry on.

Agreed. I'll take Windows Mobile over a blackberry anyday. Just personal preference. And hey, WM phones are allowed on Page Plus, unsupported, but allowed, I've used my HTC Ozone forever and the only thing it CANNOT do that a BB can is "Blackberry Messenger" - but who cares? I have IM+ which does AOL, Yahoo, etc. and it's just as good.

Kitty

[tmason68]

Ditto Android....and Palm's....

[S2274]

Ditto Android....and Palm's....

Are you saying that Androids and Palms are also better than BBs or are you saying that you prefer WM phones over BB, Android and Palm? Just want to be certain which side you are on...
-S2274-

[tmason68]

I'm saying they are all valid smart phone choices. I can't understand why people who want a blackberry on page plus don't just use one of those instead.

[wayne]

yea i have a i760 works fine for pp..i was just letting you guys know of an add i found.my phones a bit bulky but hey i deal with it..until i decide what else to use that will do at least what my phone does..just exploring other options but definately sticking with pp

[wayne]

you just wouldnt believe how many people i tell about pp..most under verizon contracts..they r dumfounded.cant wait to get out of there contracts..also think its a pager company lol...many just simply never heard of it or dont believe it.funny

[tmason68]

There are dozens of phones slimmer than the i760 thatwill do all the same stuff. Give is your specs and we will help you pick.

[Micallen]

Omnia comes to mind :)

[tmason68]

Omnia is a good choice for sure...if he doesn't need a physical keyboard. That's usually the first consideration.

[Micallen]

Wayne, the Omnia or the Ozone seems to be the next step up from an I-760. You can get either for $50-$80.

[Cardiac]

Wayne, Now that I have my Droid up and running, I might be bribed to sell my Ozone with all the goodies too.....
Silicone case, car charger, wall charger, data cable. Maybe about $75....

Bob

[wayne]

hmm have to give that some thought...did so much research on phones forget what was what at times lol

[wayne]

really like something with qwearty and wifi..i know good luck..maybe some htc phone..just not sure of their size and quality

[Micallen]

really like something with qwearty and wifi..i know good luck..maybe some htc phone..just not sure of their size and quality

The Ozone has both.

[wayne]

anyone have any experience with htc touch pro2 or palm pre plus??any major cons that may sway me one way or another or is the ozone a better phone

[tmason68]

Check out phonescoop.com. Its an easy way to compare phone features side by side.

[wayne]

ok...finally made up my mind,,,going with palm pre plus..more compact and tons of features.time to shop.watching ebay.i know risky.saw one on craigslist for 100.maybe ill get it when pay day rolls around if still there..thanx for all your input

[wayne]

just bought one on ebay for 84 and free shipping;;have to stay up crazy hours to get a deal but worth it i hope..again thanx

[tmason68]

Good luck!

[S2274]

just bought one on ebay for 84 and free shipping;;have to stay up crazy hours to get a deal but worth it i hope..again thanx

Let us know how it goes. I've been considering putting a Palm Pre Plus on PPC, but wanted to let someone else test the water first! You are now the canary in the mine shaft.

Looking forward to your experience.

-S2274-

[wayne]

always the guine pig lol....thanx

[wayne]

just recieved phone...this thing is mint...awesome phone,no regrets so far..does much more than expected and compact..cant say enough

[tmason68]

great news!!

[dollymadison]

Awesome! I'm glad you like it! I bought an Alltell Palm Treo Pro to activate on PP, but could never get it to work with data and MMS. Talk and text worked though. My husband bought a Droid Eris on ebay and I was messing around with it and fell in love, so he gave it to me for my birthday lol. It worked out for both of us; I got a great phone and he is going to get an Incredible, so we are both happy lol.

I like the Palm Pre Plus too, let me know how you like it. I may buy one of those next; I love trying out new phones!

[wayne]

oh boy''did a reset so i can put my own info on it..and cant get out of main menu..might need old info on phone'password.ect..dont know...confussed,was all excited now this.keeps saying you need to be connected to your wireless service provider.please try again.

[tmason68]

Try all zero's or 1234. Those are usually the defaults. If that doesn't work, you can ask the guy on eBay what the last 4 numbers of the phone were. He might know.

[Kitty]

What was this thread about again? LOL ;-)

[Cardiac]

What was this thread about again? LOL ;-)

Christmas recipe's???

[tmason68]

Megathreads make my head hurt. I'm gonna shut this one down. Feel free to start new threads...